Radiant energy generators8/10/2023 Then the second problem was that the cost of that replacement natural gas was going up and up and up and up and up. So that you know energy companies are like, Okay, we’re going to need like massive subsidies to build a power plant that you yourselves claim you are going to tell us to get rid of as soon as you close the nuclear plants. On the other side, they’re saying, Please, we beg you to build these important fossil fuels, because it’s only through doing that, that we can truly be clean. So getting people to build those facilities is a little tricky, because on one side of the mouth, the greens are saying, No fossil fuels. So the problems that they were having is that as natural gas has been getting more and more expensive, the cost, the apparent cost of building, getting energy companies to build natural gas facilities where your own party, the Green Party says there’s no future. And that was to destroy half the electricity in the whole country. And although other governments had kicked the can of the nuclear closers down the road, the greens helped form this current government around one compromised, they didn’t care who got what ministry, so long as they got the energy ministry for their own purposes. So yeah, you getting the point? There’s just a generational gap and competency and seriousness. So that was that was enough experience to make sure she knew how to build renewables or whatever. And her experience and energy has mainly been at being at a law firm that worked for Gazprom. So that was the energy Minister’s own words on national TV. Yeah, you just have to get dirty to get clean. But that’s just what it takes to be clean. And true, that means we have to go and get extremely expensive, imported fossil fuels from the Middle East. We have to get rid of all the nuclear because that’s renovating your house. The Belgian energy minister said something like she said something like, well, it’s like renovating a house, you have to get dirty to get clean. And the green party wanted control of the energy ministry, because they thought only they had the spine to completely convert Belgian electricity, imported fossil fuels, which is what it takes. And they’re like, we’re going to straighten this out. And there hasn’t been now a real ferocious and ruthless party finally got a hold of the energy ministry. Because once it gets to closure, everyone discovers Oh, wait, there’s no actual replacement. Their nuclear phase out law has been bouncing along for decades. Belgium gets 50% of its power from nuclear, and by law has to get rid of all of that in two and a half years.īy law, so they passed the Belgian government passed some measure that said, we’re gonna phase this out, So, in Belgium, you had one of the most comical and catastrophic upcoming energy crisis. But there’s good news other where other places Belgium is going to extend the life of their reactors, if you don’t mind, bring us up to date. But what’s happened since then what is the situation in Europe today? I know Germany has announced they’re going to close they’re going to continue the closure of their nuclear plants to the end of this year, which I find inexplicable. It’s been about six or seven weeks since you were on we were talking then about nuclear plants in in, in Ukraine that had been taken over by the by the Russian military. Well, let’s talk about nuclear plants that are closing or trying to stay open or and also what’s happening in Europe. I am managing director at radian Energy Group and independent consultancy that advises governments industry and nonprofits on the energy transition. And now at radiant energy fund ice tried to save nuclear plants from early closure, and then to eat. I worked at environmental nonprofits that were reconsidering the role of nuclear energy and finding that they were in support of it. And it seemed to answer the problem of what is something that is underappreciated, but potentially very important for our future. And I found nuclear energy in graduate school. You’ve been on the podcast, you have to introduce yourself you’ve been on before. So you’re the managing director of the radiant energy fund. So I don’t know whether it’s bad luck when you call or we’re trying to overcome bad things in the world by discussing or Thanks, Robert, you have me on whenever there’s some bad crisis going. Mark, welcome to the power hungry podcast again. And I’m pleased to welcome back my friend Mark Nelson, I believe for the fourth time on the podcast. On this podcast, we talk about energy, power, innovation and politics. Hi, everyone, welcome to the power hungry Podcast.
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